人家 vs 别人 (others — colloquial vs neutral)
Identify the referent before translating
- A friend asks you to forgive a person who has already apologised.
- 人家都道歉了，你就原谅他吧。 — 人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal.
Identify the referent before translating
- A friend asks you to forgive a person who has already apologised.
- other people人家all / both都to apologize道歉(completed / change)了，you你then / just就to excuse原谅he / him他(suggestion)吧。 — other people人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal.
Locate the pattern in real examples
- 人家 vs 别人 (others — colloquial vs neutral): ___的东西不能随便拿。; 不要在背后说___的坏话。
- Read the whole clause before choosing a translation. The examples show the pattern in use; the context below determines what the speaker claims.
Locate the pattern in real examples
- other people人家 vs other people别人 (others — colloquial vs neutral): ___(of / 's)的thing东西cannot不能as one wishes随便to hold拿。; don't不要at / in在behind背后variant of 说说___(of / 's)的unpleasant talk坏话。
- Read the whole clause before choosing a translation. The examples show the pattern in use; the context below determines what the speaker claims.
A friend asks you to forgive a person who has already apologised. What does 人家都道歉了，你就原谅他吧。 communicate?
人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal. 别人 neutrally means someone else or others. 人家 can refer to another person or, in certain familiar styles, the speaker; tone and context decide. It is not automatically warmer or more polite.
Follow the speaker
this这is是other people别人的business事。
- In the opening situation: 人家都道歉了，你就原谅他吧。
- 人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal.
Follow the speaker
this这is是other people别人的business事。
- In the opening situation: other people人家all / both都to apologize道歉(completed / change)了，you你then / just就to excuse原谅he / him他(suggestion)吧。
- other people人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal.
Using the pattern named in this lesson: Other people's business — don't meddle: 这是 ____ 的事。
别人的事 is the neutral form here; 人家的事 can also refer to another person's business in conversational context.
Check the limit of the explanation
- 别人 neutrally means someone else or others.
- 人家 can refer to another person or, in certain familiar styles, the speaker; tone and context decide. It is not automatically warmer or more polite.
Check the limit of the explanation
- other people别人 neutrally means someone else or others.
- other people人家 can refer to another person or, in certain familiar styles, the speaker; tone and context decide. It is not automatically warmer or more polite.
人家 always refers to the speaker and can never mean another person.
别人 neutrally means someone else or others. 人家 can refer to another person or, in certain familiar styles, the speaker; tone and context decide. It is not automatically warmer or more polite. 人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal.
Repair the form before interpreting it
- The form 人家都了道歉 needs repair here. Write 人家都道歉了 instead; keep the word or frame in its demonstrated order.
- Form and meaning are separate checks. After the repair, explain the sentence in its situation rather than treating a familiar translation as a universal rule.
Repair the form before interpreting it
- The form other people人家all / both都(completed / change)了to apologize道歉 needs repair here. Write other people人家all / both都to apologize道歉(completed / change)了 instead; keep the word or frame in its demonstrated order.
- Form and meaning are separate checks. After the repair, explain the sentence in its situation rather than treating a familiar translation as a universal rule.
Rewrite the demonstrated repair exactly: 人家都了道歉
The demonstrated form is 人家都道歉了. 人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal.
Keep the distinction
- 人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal. Check the relevant speaker, time or group in the surrounding context.
- 别人 neutrally means someone else or others. 人家 can refer to another person or, in certain familiar styles, the speaker; tone and context decide. It is not automatically warmer or more polite.
Read the full reference: HSK 6 grammar — Comparing similar nouns.
Keep the distinction
- other people人家 refers to the person under discussion, with sympathy or an appeal. Check the relevant speaker, time or group in the surrounding context.
- other people别人 neutrally means someone else or others. other people人家 can refer to another person or, in certain familiar styles, the speaker; tone and context decide. It is not automatically warmer or more polite.
Read the full reference: HSK 6 grammar — Comparing similar nouns.
Which can also mean a coy “me”, or a specific person?
Context determines the referent of 人家. It can mean the other person, other people or the speaker in certain familiar styles; it is not automatically polite.
人家 is more colloquial and can refer to oneself.
Yes — 人家不告诉你 (a coy “I won't tell you”).